The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2014.08.06 13:20:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I love that this argument is still going on.
Listen up guys: ISBoxer is here to stay. Even if the CSM championed this idea, there's no way in hell CCP are going to go forward with a ban of ISBoxer. Aside from the enormous amount of effort it would be to tell if people are using it, the loss of accounts that would result from the banning of ISBoxer would be staggering. We're talking thousands of accounts here, not a handful of disgruntled players.
It is very simple to trace commands from one IP over several accounts and compare the timestamps for that commands on the server. The argument about the lost accounts was also made years back when CCP ignored boting more or less and ignored tons of petitions that I and others did about a 0.3 System called Ingunn with like 200 L4 distribution mission bots in it(yes we did petition them, we killed them for hours, we made vids about them, we seen CCP staff in Polarises around taking a look on the system and it took over a year to swing the ban hammer). Plex prices went down big time after it and the player count did stabilize and grow back to the old value over time after the big ban.
Lucas Kell wrote:If CCP wanted to ban ISBoxer they would have had to do it right at the beginning. As they haven't, and people have built whole ISBoxer armies, it would be too devastating to CCPs income to go back and remove it now.
At the end of the day you just have to live with the fact that it exists, accept that it affects most players pretty much to the sum of zero, and move on.
CCP always will try to allow something that gives more revenue till a point where it becomes a problem or better put more and more people become aware of it and notice it as a problem. It was one thing having a couple of bots in the drone region farming in ravens where 1-2 people pass by during the day, it is a different one having 200 in front of you every day, it is a different thing if there where some people using it in WHs compared to having often more IS boxed VG fleets in high sec Incs than real player fleets right in front of you. It is again a difference between a couple of hulks mining somewhere in a 0.0 dead end and seeing like 50 skiffs at a gate or station in high sec, all with the same name + a number in high sec. Same goes for PVP applications, where IS boxed bomber or gank fleets become more and more common instead of being the exception.
In the end, there will be one day when CCP will disallow the usage, people will sell off a couple of chars and everybody will look back a few months later at the game and agree that it was a change for the better and CCP should have probably taken the step rather sooner than later. Same as with the bots, at one point you will rather lose a limb than damage your game further and it is not that every single account is lost forever, most people will simply downsize a bit and others will reactivate a few old accounts with the lower plex price so the drop will be a lot less heavy as you think, similar to how it was back then with the bot banning.
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